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| | epic mafia (take2) | |
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Serenity09 Moderator
| Subject: epic mafia (take2) Sun May 01, 2011 3:50 am | |
| http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swfthis game is super fun and i posted something about it way way back a lot of us already play, but if you don't and wanna learn - this is a really good place to start also things to know that it doesn't cover percentage of time pat will stab you in the back: 100% number of times it sounds like amaz is high as balls but actually does exactly the right thing: all of them mandatory thing to say when no1 dies at night: "docs gonna doc" person you should -rep when you get the chance: dmbrandon | |
| | | Pat1487 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Sat May 07, 2011 11:47 am | |
| Learning how to play can be hard, but its worth it, its a fun game
One of the things that seems to cause people to dislike the game is all the terms that are used So heres most of the terms you'll see:
Town Is the name for 1 of the teams Its the side that is "good" It can be used as "hes town"
Maf Is the name for another team Its the side that is "bad" It can be used as "hes maf"
Class or Role The game has many different classes Each class has a different role to play during the game, each class has an ability that only that class has Such as the cop who can get innocents on town sided people or guilties on maf sided people Or doctor that can choose 1 person to save from death
Blue Is another name for the villager class This class has no ability
D or d D stands for day, and is followed by a number So d1 would mean day 1, or the first day of the game Above the chat tells you what day it is Can be used as "what did he say on d2?"
N or n N stands for night and is followed by a number So n1 would mean night 1, or the first night of the game The top of where the chat is has what night it is Can be used as "who did you investigate during n1?"
FOS Means finger of suspicion Its the person who you or someone else suspects of being maf It can be used as "whos your fos?" or "i fos him"
Claim Means to claim what class you are It can be used as "what did he claim?" or "who claims cop" or "i claim "..[class that you are]
Fake claim Means to lie about what class you are It can be used as "i claim "..[class that you arent]
Inno Means that a cop has gotten an innocent on that person Can be used as "I have an inno" or "the cop said i was inno"
Out Means that someone is trying to find out someone elses class by fishing for information, by fake claiming, or by spreading misinformation Maf will do this to find who they want to kill Town may do this by mistake while trying to find maf You could even out yourself to maf Cop may help maf by outing the people he has innocents on, just by saying their names Cop shouldnt out innos when maf has a godfather, a framer, or a lawyer
CC Means to counter claim Its used when some claims something that you are, or that you find inconvenient Like when your maf, and the cop claims, thats inconvenient, so you cc the cop Or when your town and someone claims your class (and theres only 1 of your class) you cc them since you know they are maf and need to make sure everyone else knows Choosing when you should cc is important to Some guidelines are dont cc someone that claims to be doc or an important class (they are probably maf trying to out you), dont cc cop when the doc or bg is dead Basically dont cc when you dont have to
Clear Means that someone has proven that they are sided with town Someone can be considered clear when they have no cc's It can be used as "hes clear" or "claim to the clear"
fmpov Means From My Point of View It can be used as "fmpov your not clear" Normally its only used in specific situations
Autowin Means that no matter what happens that side will win Sometimes the game will come to a point where 1 side cant win, due to mistakes made on that side, or pro play from the other side Can be used as "it doesnt matter, its autowin"
ML or mislynch Means Miss Lynch When theres significantly more town people then maf you have a number of miss-lynches you can use while trying to find the maf Basically lynching the towns people by mistake in an attempt to find maf Can be used as "we have a mislynch" or "lets use our ml today on him"
NL Means No Lynch Used when someone doesnt what to lynch anyone Can be used as "NL today" or "we should NL"
RL Means random lynch Normally used on d1 as a mislynch, when theres nothing to go on Can be used as "are we RLing" or "lets just RL someone"
PL Means Policy Lynch Same as RL but instead of picking someone at random people pick the person that doesnt have an avatar They pick that person because they think that person is new since they havent changed thier profile Can be used as "lets PL him to use our mislynch"
Mylo Means mislynch and lose Used when theres no room for error, and that if you lynch town you will lose Can be used as "its mylo" or "we should NL, its mylo"
Lylo Means lynch or lose Like mylo, its used when theres no room for error But its worse then that because town needs to lynch maf or they will lose Usually Lylo will happen when theres 1 more town then there are maf, so if theres 3 town sided people and 2 maf its lylo for town because maf will kill a town and it will be 2 to 2 and maf wins Can be used as "we cant NL its lylo" or "god damnit, now its lylo"
Massclaim Means that everyone should claim publicly This should only happen in lylo since it can save the game Massclaiming before lylo can cause maf to win pretty easily
Bandwagon Means that people are all voting to lynch someone because someone else did without any evidence or reasoning It can be used as "i just jumped on the bandwagon" or "dont just bandwagon like this, its mylo"
Maf buddy As maf this is your teammate(s) As town this will be used to say that someone is someone elses teammate on the maf side Can be used as "they are maf buddies" or "my maf buddy will win this"
Bus Means to out someone in an attempt to clear another person Usually maf will do this The most common way a bus happens is maf will claim cop, he will claim he has a guilty on his maf buddy, town will lynch his maf buddy and town will see the maf as cop He throws his teammate under the bus to help himself, which is where the name comes from Town can do this as well, for different reasons, but it happens less and is only done in specific situations Can be used as "i think this is a bus" or "he just bussed him"
Scum Another word for maf Can be used in place of maf
Scumtell or scummy Means that maf has said something that sounds maf Can be used as "thats scummy" or "that was a scumtell" Can be used by maf to make someone from town seem maf if town says something that sounds maf, as in maf saying: "thats scummy"
Scumhunt Means that someone is hunting for maf, looking or fishing for scumtells Scumhunting is required in mylo or lylo situations Can be used as "hes scumhunting"
Towntell Means the opposite of scumtell When a town does something that seems like they are sided with the town Can be used by maf to make themselves seen like town
Hammer Means the final vote in any meeting The person that hammers is the last person to vote In mafia meetings the person that hammers is the one that suffers the effects from a bodyguard, or any effect like that, where it can only effect a single person Can be used as "ill hammer" or "dont let maf have the hammer"
Lurking or lurk Means the same thing it means normally People will consider lurking as scummy and will use any mislynch on them | |
| | | Serenity09 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Sat May 07, 2011 11:14 pm | |
| well like 1/2 of the stuff pat posted is in that tutorial i should probably clarify that the tutorial is equally geared at epic mafia as it is at real life games of mafia (like around a campfire with a bunch of friends) so in real life the "moderator" is someone who isn't playing but keeps track of who's who. in epic mafia, its the server itself and is as impartial as possible you should still read pat's list though, some of the more important specifics are in it if someone says something that pat didn't cover check thisthere are also a bunch of strategies listed under there like hypo cop one of the cleverest and most useless strategies ever | |
| | | Pat1487 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Sun May 08, 2011 12:12 am | |
| - Serenity09 wrote:
- well like 1/2 of the stuff pat posted is in that tutorial
i should probably clarify that the tutorial is equally geared at epic mafia as it is at real life games of mafia (like around a campfire with a bunch of friends) so in real life the "moderator" is someone who isn't playing but keeps track of who's who. in epic mafia, its the server itself and is as impartial as possible
you should still read pat's list though, some of the more important specifics are in it
if someone says something that pat didn't cover check this
there are also a bunch of strategies listed under there like hypo cop one of the cleverest and most useless strategies ever I didnt read everything in the link you posted, i didnt realized it covered that much I didnt put hypno cop cause its never used anymore, ive seen it once and it was useless there I didnt put some other stuff cause it seemed too complicated for someone starting out, also the post was already too long, in fact i cut myself short Heres some other stuff i wrote but trashed (dont bother to read it, just see how long it is) for length and the fact that it would be impossible to cover everything i wanted to, even with the 3 classes i had started writing for (i intended to do it for all of the common ones, about 15 or so): - Spoiler:
Each game will be different and youll have to make decisions as you go, theres no 1 way to play, or 1 strategy that will win all the time But here are some strategies to help you get started
Class specific strategies:
Blue (villager) Blues cant do anything at night, the game can be boring as a blue since you cant really do anything But you can make it more exciting for yourself by participating in the discussion during the day Make yourself appear as a threat to the maf and get yourself killed by them, this will give other, more important roles like the doc, more time to stay alive When theres a hooker (hookers prevent cops from being able to investigate) in the game you can claim as a blue and then ask the cop to investigate you and then tell his reports to you the next day (this only works when there is a doc on you and no lawyer or godfather in the game) so that you can then say his reports for him to everyone, keeping him safe from the hooker
Doc The doc can save 1 person a night from being killed and basically just has to act in a way that wont get him killed You can act in favor of people that you fos, so that they wont kill you Just dont go to overboard with it or else the town may suspect you as being maf Basically just try to stay alive for as long as you can and dont make enemies When someone ccs a cop 1 of them is the real cop and 1 is a maf, you would think you have to decide which one you protect, but you dont You dont have to protect either of them because the maf cant kill the cop without outing one of themselves, and may just assuming the doc is doccing the cop so they wont try to hit him Pick someone else to protect until the cops cc is lynched This could backfire and the cop might die, but its a risk you should take
Cop The cop can investigate 1 person every night and learn what side they are on If you claim as cop you will probably be cced, if you arent that either means the doc is dead and your next, or the maf is just stupid and didnt cc you You shouldnt claim if there is no doc, or other role that can protect you You shouldnt claim if maf has a hooker because you will get hooked and wont be able to investigate at night You should claim if theres no hooker, and theres someone that can protect you As cop you will have to lead the game and say if you have a guilty or not Some set-ups will have millers, lawyers, godfathers, and/or framers which will mess with your reports, in these games dont out who is inno, only say who is guilty If your cced you have to convince people your the real cop, this is harder then it sounds Dont investigate your cc, theres no reason to, hes either maf or a troll (probably maf) A good way to convince people your the real cop is to
You noticed i just stopped mid sentence there, its because there was no 1 good way to do it, theres no one way to do anything And thats when i realized i wouldnt be able to write something like that for all of them and cover every situation without using a series of some sort of pseudo code nested if statements, and doing that would be like planning out a program that could play epic maf, which would be like trying to make an AI capable of making situational decisions and using judgement like a human can I still want to add more to what ive said, to help people play, but i cant think of how since theres really no right way to do anything or really any limits on what you can or cant do I might try to write something more general when it comes to strategies I guess the wiki does a good job, but it over complicates some things, like lylo and mylo for example When i was new i didnt understand the difference between them (for awhile i thought they were interchangeable) and went to the wiki to find out and still didnt get the difference, maybe it was just me though | |
| | | Serenity09 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Sun May 08, 2011 1:09 am | |
| i was just using hypo as an example of a strategy not of something that should get its own post haha
why not just make a thread for each role/how to play thing you come up with?
this was only ever meant to be the basics of the game
i still mix up mylo and lylo i think its that its misslynch AND lose and lynch OR lose that gets me mixed up
cop is the trickiest to explain because there are so many exceptions to the usual cases that you said | |
| | | Pat1487 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Sun May 08, 2011 1:26 am | |
| The "and" and "or" was what got me to | |
| | | AmAzIn[G]232 Corporal
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Sun May 08, 2011 1:54 pm | |
| Yeah I remember mylo and lylo being one of the main reasons I was lynched a noob. For some reason idiots associate not knowing what lylo or mylo is with being mafia because they don't pay attention. Which in reality makes absolutely no sense because if I was mafia I probably would have asked or heard my teammates in the night tell me or I would have asked. | |
| | | Serenity09 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Mon May 16, 2011 5:54 am | |
| lol yeah, recently people have been getting killed for weirder and weirder reasons. like i played an unranked game where the un cc'd cop got lynched for claiming too quick he was cop too | |
| | | Pat1487 Moderator
| Subject: Re: epic mafia (take2) Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:41 pm | |
| Epic fail game: http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1023263I was blue, not really paying attention at first It got to the point where we had to lynch a maf or lose, we knew who to lynch (more or less) aandres and man were guilty, we were voting man, man was voting someone else Since andres was about to lose he didnt vote and time ran down past the afk timer but no one had kicked I suggested we just change votes to the one that wasnt voting and then kick (since he was guilty anyway i didnt think it would matter), but as soon as i did andres voted someone to make it a tie and then kicked to force nl We should have lost there since it was 2 maf vs 3 town and maf would just need to kill one of us, so that was a pretty big fail on my part In my defense i didnt realize you could pull such a dick move like that with the time (i said that during the game) But it gets worse Luckly the doc saved so we had another chance After the stunt they pulled the previous day it was obvious who the maf were We voted man again but at the afk timer sins voted no one for some fail reason, the maf made it tie again and this time they knew who the doc was so we lost | |
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